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Benoit - Admin
Nombre de messages : 1399 Age : 44 Localisation : toulouse Date d'inscription : 11/05/2007
| Sujet: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 9:18 | |
| Adam and Eve in the Land of the Dinosaurs
PETERSBURG, Ky. — The entrance gates here are topped with metallic Stegosauruses. The grounds include a giant tyrannosaur standing amid the trees, and a stone-lined lobby sports varied sauropods. It could be like any other natural history museum, luring families with the promise of immense fossils and dinosaur adventures.
But step a little farther into the entrance hall, and you come upon a pastoral scene undreamt of by any natural history museum. Two prehistoric children play near a burbling waterfall, thoroughly at home in the natural world. Dinosaurs cavort nearby, their animatronic mechanisms turning them into alluring companions, their gaping mouths seeming not threatening, but almost welcoming, as an Apatosaurus munches on leaves a few yards away.
What is this, then? A reproduction of a childhood fantasy in which dinosaurs are friends of inquisitive youngsters? The kind of fantasy that doesn’t care that human beings and these prefossilized thunder-lizards are usually thought to have been separated by millions of years? No, this really is meant to be more like one of those literal dioramas of the traditional natural history museum, an imagining of a real habitat, with plant life and landscape reproduced in meticulous detail.
For here at the $27 million Creation Museum, which opens on May 28 (just a short drive from the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky International Airport), this pastoral scene is a glimpse of the world just after the expulsion from the Garden of Eden, in which dinosaurs are still apparently as herbivorous as humans, and all are enjoying a little calm in the days after the fall.
It also serves as a vivid introduction to the sheer weirdness and daring of this museum created by the Answers in Genesis ministry that combines displays of extraordinary nautilus shell fossils and biblical tableaus, celebrations of natural wonders and allusions to human sin. Evolution gets its continual comeuppance, while biblical revelations are treated as gospel.
Outside the museum scientists may assert that the universe is billions of years old, that fossils are the remains of animals living hundreds of millions of years ago, and that life’s diversity is the result of evolution by natural selection. But inside the museum the Earth is barely 6,000 years old, dinosaurs were created on the sixth day, and Jesus is the savior who will one day repair the trauma of man’s fall.
It is a measure of the museum’s daring that dinosaurs and fossils — once considered major challenges to belief in the Bible’s creation story — are here so central, appearing not as tests of faith, as one religious authority once surmised, but as creatures no different from the giraffes and cats that still walk the earth. Fossils, the museum teaches, are no older than Noah’s flood; in fact dinosaurs were on the ark.
So dinosaur skeletons and brightly colored mineral crystals and images of the Grand Canyon are here, as are life-size dioramas showing paleontologists digging in mock earth, Moses and Paul teaching their doctrines, Martin Luther chastising the church to return to Scripture, Adam and Eve guiltily standing near skinned animals, covering their nakedness, and a supposedly full-size reproduction of a section of Noah’s ark.
There are 52 videos in the museum, one showing how the transformations wrought by the eruption of Mount St. Helens in 1980 reveal how plausible it is that the waters of Noah’s flood could have carved out the Grand Canyon within days. There is a special-effects theater complete with vibrating seats meant to evoke the flood, and a planetarium paying tribute to God’s glory while exploring the nature of galaxies.
Whether you are willing to grant the premises of this museum almost becomes irrelevant as you are drawn into its mixture of spectacle and narrative. Its 60,000 square feet of exhibits are often stunningly designed by Patrick Marsh, who, like the entire museum staff, declares adherence to the ministry’s views; he evidently also knows the lure of secular sensations, since he designed the “Jaws” and “King Kong” attractions at Universal Studios in Florida.
For the skeptic the wonder is at a strange universe shaped by elaborate arguments, strong convictions and intermittent invocations of scientific principle. For the believer, it seems, this museum provides a kind of relief: Finally the world is being shown as it really is, without the distortions of secularism and natural selection.
The Creation Museum actually stands the natural history museum on its head. Natural history museums developed out of the Enlightenment: encyclopedic collections of natural objects were made subject to ever more searching forms of inquiry and organization. The natural history museum gave order to the natural world, taming its seeming chaos with the principles of human reason. And Darwin’s theory — which gave life a compelling order in time as well as space — became central to its purpose. Put on display was the prehistory of civilization, seeming to allude not just to the evolution of species but also cultures (which is why “primitive” cultures were long part of its domain). The natural history museum is a hall of human origins.
The Creation Museum has a similar interest in dramatizing origins, but sees natural history as divine history. And now that many museums have also become temples to various American ethnic and sociological groups, why not a museum for the millions who believe that the Earth is less than 6,000 years old and was created in six days?
Mark Looy, a founder of Answers in Genesis with its president, Ken Ham, said the ministry expected perhaps 250,000 visitors during the museum’s first year. In preparation Mr. Ham for 13 years has been overseeing 350 seminars annually about the truths of Genesis, which have been drawing thousands of acolytes. The organization’s magazine has 50,000 subscribers. The museum also says that it has 9,000 charter members and international contributors who have left the institution free of debt.
But for a visitor steeped in the scientific world view, the impact of the museum is a disorienting mix of faith and reason, the exotic and the familiar. Nature here is not “red in tooth and claw,” as Tennyson asserted. In fact at first it seems almost as genteel as Eden’s dinosaurs. We learn that chameleons, for example, change colors not because that serves as a survival mechanism, but “to ‘talk’ to other chameleons, to show off their mood, and to adjust to heat and light.”
Meanwhile a remarkable fossil of a perch devouring a herring found in Wyoming offers “silent testimony to God’s worldwide judgment,” not because it shows a predator and prey, but because the two perished — somehow getting preserved in stone — during Noah’s flood. Nearly all fossils, the museum asserts, are relics of that divine retribution.
The heart of the museum is a series of catastrophes. The main one is the fall, with Adam and Eve eating of the tree of knowledge; after that tableau the viewer descends from the brightness of Eden into genuinely creepy cement hallways of urban slums. Photographs show the pain of war, childbirth, death — the wages of primal sin. Then come the biblical accounts of the fallen world, leading up to Noah’s ark and the flood, the source of all significant geological phenomena.
The other catastrophe, in the museum’s view, is of more recent vintage: the abandonment of the Bible by church figures who began to treat the story of creation as if it were merely metaphorical, and by Enlightenment philosophers, who chipped away at biblical authority. The ministry believes this is a slippery slope.
Start accepting evolution or an ancient Earth, and the result is like the giant wrecking ball, labeled “Millions of Years,” that is shown smashing the ground at the foundation of a church, the cracks reaching across the gallery to a model of a home in which videos demonstrate the imminence of moral dissolution. A teenager is shown sitting at a computer; he is, we are told, looking at pornography.
But given the museum’s unwavering insistence on belief in the literal truth of biblical accounts, it is strange that so much energy is put into demonstrating their scientific coherence with discussions of erosion or interstellar space. Are such justifications required to convince the skeptical or reassure the believer?
In the museum’s portrayal, creationists and secularists view the same facts, but come up with differing interpretations, perhaps the way Ptolemaic astronomers in the 16th century saw the Earth at the center of the universe, where Copernicans began to place the sun. But one problem is that scientific activity presumes that the material world is organized according to unchanging laws, while biblical fundamentalism presumes that those laws are themselves subject to disruption and miracle. Is not that a slippery slope as well, even affecting these analyses?
But for debates, a visitor goes elsewhere. The Creation Museum offers an alternate world that has its fascinations, even for a skeptic wary of the effect of so many unanswered assertions. He leaves feeling a bit like Adam emerging from Eden, all the world before him, freshly amazed at its strangeness and extravagant peculiarities. « P
And don't think it's a joke, or that no one cares about it. Creationists are a very strong force in the US, especially in the bible belt... very depressing to see that obscurantism still exists in a developped country... | |
| | | Nadette
Nombre de messages : 2160 Age : 52 Localisation : Courbevoie Date d'inscription : 12/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:13 | |
| Impressive ! Are these creationists the same ones who organize Jesus camps in USA ? | |
| | | Benoit - Admin
Nombre de messages : 1399 Age : 44 Localisation : toulouse Date d'inscription : 11/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:15 | |
| yep. and so much more of which you have no idea... i'll tell you about the Promise Keepers next time. it's even better... | |
| | | Vari-lite
Nombre de messages : 100 Age : 48 Localisation : Nogent sur Marne Date d'inscription : 20/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:29 | |
| ha ha ha let's read A.Comte-Sponville that's pretty much better ... Promise keeper, christian ... why doesn't they spend more time helping poor people, hobo and so on ? I guess it is more important even in the holly bible ??? no ? | |
| | | ArnaudH
Nombre de messages : 3660 Age : 51 Localisation : Rome, Italie Date d'inscription : 14/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:48 | |
| Now inside the museum be very quiet children, that's where they send all those people that have gone around the bend and need to get a life... Thanks for the laughs though... | |
| | | Benoit - Admin
Nombre de messages : 1399 Age : 44 Localisation : toulouse Date d'inscription : 11/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:52 | |
| and you haven't heard the last funny tidbit: the actor playing Adam in most of the videos inside the museum is in face a porn actor with his own web site... As soon as they found out, they fired him, but it is still very funny. It doesn't matter how hard they try, they keep on making fools out of themselves... | |
| | | ArnaudH
Nombre de messages : 3660 Age : 51 Localisation : Rome, Italie Date d'inscription : 14/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 11 Juin 2007 - 23:57 | |
| Well, at least they're a barrel of laughs, now should these people be allowed to vote.... that's another story alltogether... | |
| | | Nadette
Nombre de messages : 2160 Age : 52 Localisation : Courbevoie Date d'inscription : 12/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Mar 12 Juin 2007 - 13:16 | |
| Problem isnt just about voting, it's also a question of education. These people are also the ones who forbid certain tidbits of knowledge (like the theory of evolution from Darwin) in some of the states in USA. When religion is that blind, it's terrifying. Fundamentalism is everywhere and even where u dont expect it. Sometimes, as history teacher i despair of the world and capacity for humankind to learn from past mistakes ! | |
| | | ArnaudH
Nombre de messages : 3660 Age : 51 Localisation : Rome, Italie Date d'inscription : 14/05/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Mar 12 Juin 2007 - 16:46 | |
| Tell me about it, I live in Rome, 1 km from the center of world catholicism and its idiotic positions on AIDS, Abortion, Women, the role of Religion in Politics and so on (OK the US is worse in some places, still to each his own) | |
| | | Auguste
Nombre de messages : 15 Age : 45 Localisation : Paris XIVe Date d'inscription : 19/06/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Mer 20 Juin 2007 - 17:50 | |
| "The Jews, the Muslims and the Christians, they've all got it wrong. The people of the world only divide into two kinds, one sort with brains who hold no religion, the other with religion who hold no brain..."
Abu-al-Ala al Marri (10th century Syrian poet)
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. "
Galileo Galilei | |
| | | Alex67
Nombre de messages : 535 Age : 37 Localisation : Strasbourg Date d'inscription : 17/04/2008
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 19:16 | |
| "Creation Museum" BRAVO | |
| | | nitou86
Nombre de messages : 571 Age : 60 Localisation : poitou-charentes Date d'inscription : 17/10/2007
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Mer 11 Juin 2008 - 16:45 | |
| I wonder if they have a website ... I'd love to see the dinosaurs on the ark !! | |
| | | capitole
Nombre de messages : 1104 Age : 55 Localisation : paris Date d'inscription : 07/06/2008
| Sujet: Re: creation museum - christian fundamentalists' new project Ven 25 Juil 2008 - 9:58 | |
| Here you are my friend :
http://www.creationmuseum.org/
plenty of dinos in the Bible indeed. I should have remembered that.
and also :
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
which happens to be the antidote. | |
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